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i dont wanna break her heart when she finds out she cant go in the real world and shes only in my head
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I think they most of the time know they're tulpas But if you're worried about that, you can learn imposition or possession or switching Imposition is when you sense and see her in the real world Possession is when you allow her to share control of your body Switching is when you switch who controls your body
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ohh okay! how do i do that and what does it feel like?
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i dont wanna break her heart when she finds out she cant go in the real world and shes only in my head
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:07 PM
Depends on the person All of mine have known except for Nelly But Nelly took it well
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also what do tulpas see? is it what i see? or just the headspace/wonderland thing
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ohh okay! how do i do that and what does it feel like?
I've only attempted imposition so far I'm not done learning it But what i do is i go for a walk and imagine/sense eishi walking behind me. Every once in a while, i look behind me or look at my shadow and imagine looking at him as he's walking. One time, after we went for a walk, i continued to be able to sense him, and he sat next to me and fiddled with his hands. It sort of feels like the way you sense a real person, but it will be less concrete at first. Eventually, you'll be able to sense her all the time You can also check out the guides on imposition; approved guides are in pinned messages of this channel
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Kei Wendt
I've only attempted imposition so far I'm not done learning it But what i do is i go for a walk and imagine/sense eishi walking behind me. Every once in a while, i look behind me or look at my shadow and imagine looking at him as he's walking. One time, after we went for a walk, i continued to be able to sense him, and he sat next to me and fiddled with his hands. It sort of feels like the way you sense a real person, but it will be less concrete at first. Eventually, you'll be able to sense her all the time You can also check out the guides on imposition; approved guides are in pinned messages of this channel
oooh okay tysm! ill be trying that later once im more experianced
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also what do tulpas see? is it what i see? or just the headspace/wonderland thing
They can see what you see if you let them They can also see the wonderland I personally have my wonderland set up as an appartment, with the balcony being the area where eishi can share my senses. He chills out there pretty often, but when he's not there i can also share things with him sorta telepathically
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also what do tulpas see? is it what i see? or just the headspace/wonderland thing
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:10 PM
My tulpas and me all experience things from my POV Though, i dont feel like getting into it
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okayy tyty
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:10 PM
Basically Your beliefs effect the way it works
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i just thought she could see everything i saw tbh
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Yep It depends on the person and you might end up with something different that's more comfortable for you
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:11 PM
Idk if kat would allow me to continue living if i got more specific
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berockly (TTG)
Idk if kat would allow me to continue living if i got more specific
oh wowza
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i just thought she could see everything i saw tbh
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:11 PM
Then she can
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i just thought she could see everything i saw tbh
If that's how you feel, that's how you can have it set up
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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/24/2023 6:12 PM
We generally all experience things from the same pov.
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:12 PM
Ive got a question tho
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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/24/2023 6:12 PM
As for accepting the fact that they're headmates, most of those in sysyem have handled it well. Only Owen and Iota truly struggled to come to terms with it.
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:13 PM
Whed i switch Should my awareness go to the back? Or do i just sorta "stop thinking" (the second one is generally what happens)
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Awareness becomes someone else instead of me
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i mean i wouldnt want her to see everything from my pov when im older cos yk 😭
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As for accepting the fact that they're headmates, most of those in sysyem have handled it well. Only Owen and Iota truly struggled to come to terms with it.
For me eishi was just glad to even exist so he took it super well He realized as soon as he was created
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i mean i wouldnt want her to see everything from my pov when im older cos yk 😭
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:13 PM
Your in the same mind I dont see how it matters
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i mean i wouldnt want her to see everything from my pov when im older cos yk 😭
Ah fair You can probably ask her to step back during things you don't want her to see But she'll probably see it anyways She can be quiet if you don't want her to bother you though
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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/24/2023 6:14 PM
Owen and Iota used to be the same person. They were upset that they lacked control over their lives (mental health, lack of social standing, etc.) So they were miserable here.
6:15 PM
So it was less about being a headmate, more about being stuck in a situation they could not control.
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berockly (TTG)
Whed i switch Should my awareness go to the back? Or do i just sorta "stop thinking" (the second one is generally what happens)
I think it depends on the person But maybe ask this in #tulpa-questions-2 so it doesn't get buried
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 6:21 PM
I have a really boring brain. That is, a brain with hypophantasia/aphantasia and that's bad with dreams (0 recall 0 lucids and 0 fun ones). Is it possible for me to create tulpas? I heard that people with aphantasia can't get lucid dreams and I really struggled so I just wonder if tulpas would be similar. (edited)
6:22 PM
I guess I just doubt my brain's capacity to be fun for me to exist in
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Kei Wendt
Ah fair You can probably ask her to step back during things you don't want her to see But she'll probably see it anyways She can be quiet if you don't want her to bother you though
okk ty
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Tachytaenius
I have a really boring brain. That is, a brain with hypophantasia/aphantasia and that's bad with dreams (0 recall 0 lucids and 0 fun ones). Is it possible for me to create tulpas? I heard that people with aphantasia can't get lucid dreams and I really struggled so I just wonder if tulpas would be similar. (edited)
i mean it would probably be harder with visualisation and stuff like that
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 6:23 PM
yeah i'm not expecting to have a great visual grasp on anyone
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tbh im focusing on her voice rn im not too bothered about visualisation rn
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i wouldnt worry
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(ive only had her for 4 days i cant give alot of advice yet sorry)
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Tachytaenius
I have a really boring brain. That is, a brain with hypophantasia/aphantasia and that's bad with dreams (0 recall 0 lucids and 0 fun ones). Is it possible for me to create tulpas? I heard that people with aphantasia can't get lucid dreams and I really struggled so I just wonder if tulpas would be similar. (edited)
You can still create a tulpa It will be harder to visualize them, but as far as i know visualization of your tulpa is a skill you can learn Visualization isn't a necessary part of creating a tulpa though so you'll be fine
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tbh im focusing on her voice rn im not too bothered about visualisation rn
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 6:27 PM
Well You can visualize her (as ive seen)
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ive started a new visualisation method to help me see when she speaks (her mouth) cos when i imagine her idk how to visualise mouths it allways looks funny in my head
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 6:44 PM
my plurality is just a tool to understand myself currently. named personality facets with forms. but I want it all to feel more alive, so i'm looking into tulpamancy to raise these personality facets more into actual people. what'd be the difference in the process of making a tulpa that's a separate entity and a tulpa that's more just a personality facet of mine made more real? I don't want them to become too independent because i want them to still be a part of me. i was told that my mind is mine so it should be possible, but what's the difference in process? (edited)
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The intention would be the difference Rather than intending to create a tulpa with a separate personality, you're simply assigning part of your own personality to the tulpa In the process of creating a tulpa, you envision the result and keep that in your mind as you force or speak to them. If you envision a facet of your own personality, that will be what will be turned into a tulpa. It might deviate if it wants to, though, so keep that in mind
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 6:48 PM
I'm not sure I'd want them to deviate as I'd have to rethink a lot of stuff. (edited)
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say Hilda became something else, would she still be my girl side? you know, it'd be confusing
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but maybe that's a worthwhile risk and a bridge i'd cross if i came to it (edited)
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I feel like it wouldn't deviate as much if you're assigning it to part of your own personality instead of making a new one I'm not sure though, i don't know of anyone who's done exactly this before
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 6:50 PM
yeah it's p specific
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I suppose you could try it, and if it becomes too uncomfortable you could dissipate them or stop developing them
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my plurality is just a tool to understand myself currently. named personality facets with forms. but I want it all to feel more alive, so i'm looking into tulpamancy to raise these personality facets more into actual people. what'd be the difference in the process of making a tulpa that's a separate entity and a tulpa that's more just a personality facet of mine made more real? I don't want them to become too independent because i want them to still be a part of me. i was told that my mind is mine so it should be possible, but what's the difference in process?
@Tachytaenius - jump plurality is a very convoluted way of achieving your goal. you might look into Inner Family System therapy, which is probably very close to what you are looking for. It is semi-plural therapy approach, but it's an integrative therapy
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the terms of inner child and inner critic are borrowed from that framework
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 7:12 PM
well, maybe
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The Internal Family Systems Model (IFS) is an integrative approach to individual psychotherapy developed by Richard C. Schwartz in the 1980s. It combines systems thinking with the view that the mind is made up of relatively discrete subpersonalities, each with its own unique viewpoint and qualities. IFS uses family systems theory to understand h...
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it assumes you already have parts, which is why it would work very quickly for you
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the parts are more of independent facets of you, which sounds similar to what you described
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Tachytaenius 3/24/2023 7:50 PM
thanks, but i'm going to continue on my current set of potential trajectories
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good luck!
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@Pleeb there's a scam
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Ah it's gone now
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Wasn't sure who to ping sorry
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/24/2023 10:34 PM
usually just @ moderator, every staff member will be pingued
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Ah ok
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 10:52 PM
summon the army
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Im now asking my tulpa questions that I actually find interesting as if I'm asking a person for there opinion
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Even if I'm parroting or not it helps🙄‼️
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Also we(I mean I become he dosent fully agree yet) are making an account just for our system
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Nice
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He hasn't been speaking much when I'm not focusing on him though unless I'm not realizing
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I think he has a somewhat different voice but it's still hard to distinguish
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Like when he talks it's still like one of my thoughts just its more loud (edited)
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mines kinda quiet and barely ever speaks
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well i ramble on but i feel like its just me replying by accident
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but then thar might be my tulpa
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but i feel like its me
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well i ramble on but i feel like its just me replying by accident
berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:51 PM
Its not you accidentally replying
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:51 PM
If your replying unintentionally It IS your tulpa
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I DIDNT REALISE
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:52 PM
(If you believe it to be such) Because your not doing it, who would be doing it? BESIDES UR TULPA!
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she just sounds exactly like me so im like its probably me subconsciously replying
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:54 PM
Well, thats fine
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If you want, think of it as splitting it off your train of thought
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Anything besides "subconsciously parroting" theres no such thing
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As i define subconscious as things you are not doing on purpose "Subconscious parroting" is a good sign
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Now its a matter of training her voice
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yea i do need her to have a voice
11:56 PM
probably more higher than mine
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:56 PM
You could ask her
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(With a nod or shake of the head)
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In general do. Not. Worry. About. Accidentally. Parroting. Your. Tulpa
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Kat probably has a simpler explanation
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tysm!!! ill be talking to her now alot more (i try talk to her but it usually leads to dead ends)
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berockly (TTG) 3/24/2023 11:58 PM
@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk uncomplicate whatever complications i created
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Tulpas usually sound the exact same from you
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they dont sound like an 'alien' voice
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you can learn to have a different mindvoice but usually the default is the same voice as the host
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she just sounds exactly like me so im like its probably me subconsciously replying
That was my issue (still kinda is bc we haven't found a voice) but I just learned to not care about parroting much
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I feel like having huge anxiety about parroting could probably delay your tulpa progress because you could get yourself stuck on stage one like I did
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